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Steel to Cast with mig repair - monkers - 12-12-2012

We obtained some new (new to us) equipment at work. A shop closed down in the city and we got another drill press, a brake and shear. Well, while waiting for a manual on the brake and shear, I decided to start looking over the drill press. It is a clone to the Clausing we have now, a nice big machine. I noticed the hand crank for the table elevation handle was broke off. Most of it was there, when they loaded it they must have caught it on something, breaking off the lug that the handle is mounted to.
So, I decided to make a new lug and handle, and weld it on the cast iron crank that was remaining. Now, Ive read about mig welding cast etc....never tried it. I have only repaired cast with O/A brazing, with fair success, I think sometimes I over heat it and the braze dont want to stick, but usually do ok.
Now, I have another reason for wanting to use mig. I have a Johnson bandsaw Im working on at home and need to weld the gash in the table and I dont have my torches at my shop yet, still in storage. So I figure Ill give this a shot
Here are the photos: the lug welded on, then smoothed out with a flap wheel, then the handle I made thats threaded in the lug with a set screw on the back side of the lug, I used a bolt to make the screw and cut the slot in it with the shaper. It welded ok, had the wire speed up a little more than I should have, no pre/post heat, did peen it a little. Now, lets see if it holds lol...........
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RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - sasquatch - 12-12-2012

Nice work!! That is great!


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - monkers - 12-12-2012

Thank you, I dont have a radius attachment to make a fancy handle.....and they would b*tch at work if I spent too much time on it, they would just use vise grips!Bash


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - stevec - 12-13-2012

Pretty nice lookin' weld for cast iron!


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - monkers - 12-13-2012

Thanks stevec, it sounded like crap while welding, sounded like there was dirt in it or something, but no porosity. Like I said , this was the first Ive tried this method. I need to weld the "gash" on my model B Johnson saw, and I seen where another guy used mig to do so, so Im gonna give it a shot.......lol


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - Mayhem - 12-13-2012

I've found that whilst cast can be welded with a mig, it hasn't lasted too long. Most repairs I have brazed, although I did by some rods for my arc welder but they were expensive and a pain in the butt to use. I pre-heat cast before hand.

Bob posted about some repairs he has done with a dedicated cast wire for mig. Detail on the wire is in post #4


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - monkers - 12-13-2012

This was my first attempt and is a bit of an experiment, curious to see if it holds


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - DaveH - 12-13-2012

Monkers,
Very nice job and nicely finished as well Smiley-signs107
Smiley-eatdrink004
DaveH


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - doubleboost - 12-13-2012

The weld looks very good
Depends on the grade of cast iron
I have pre heated used the propper rods cooled slowly and the job still cracked
I prefer brazing now for cast repairs
I once mig welded a exhaust manifold in position it was very hot from the engine running , as soon as it was welded we started the engine up in an attempt to cool it slowly
As far as i am aware it is still good
John


RE: Steel to Cast with mig repair - monkers - 12-15-2012

thanks doubleboost!!