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[the penguin]

(04-05-2016, 08:42 PM)EdK Wrote: Oh come on people. The Chinese are perfectly capable of making top notch machinery. But how much are you willing to spend?

Ed

Ed,

That is so true. I spent about 1-1/2 years working in China, all told spread over 13-14 trips, working for Goodyear, Proctor & Gamble, GE and other companies. Some of the equipment I saw over there was amazing, incredibly advanced, true cutting edge.

I was in a automotive part factory I saw a series of CNC machines, some Haas, some Mazak, some German made and some Chinese, all roughly equivalent to each over. I asked why they were not sold in the US, I was told, when it gets to a certain point, quality cost money, no matter where its made. The Dutch engineer I was talking to said, if all of the pieces have basically the same capacity, the cost will be very similar to each other. He said, that if a German machine, a US made machine and a Chinese made machine, all have similar cost, who would buy the Chinese one, no one outside of Asia. There is no market for them outside of Asia.

If you look at some of the top of the line, Jets, South Bend and others, there is even good quality in the mid priced range equipment, something that wasn't possible 10 years ago.

He also said, that the Chinese are not stupid people, if we would stop buying cheap crap, they would stop producing cheap crap. He said, that except for Milwaukee tools and a few others, Chinese companies do not market anything in the US, it US companies, that buy and market, Chinese products in the US.